Re: [coldsync-hackers] An idiot and his Mac

[Lars Bell <lars@praestare.com>]

>
>
>	This ought to be possible, but unfortunately I can't give you
>much help with this. In particular, you'll have to set up the bit
>about dialing in yourself. If you can get to a shell prompt from a
>Palm, I might be able to help.

Yes I think I can do that.

here is my setup
	  preferences-Network
Service ATG
User Name: larsb
Password: Assigned
Connection: direct to modem
Phone: 2842284

details....
Connection Type: PPP
Idle timeout: Power Off
Ouery DNS: (checked)
IP Address (checked) Automatic

Script.....
End

Under  Preferences -Connection
I set up a new one(i don't think I had to do that) called
direct to modem
which has the following edit...
Connection Method : Serial to Modem
Dialing: TouchTomeTM
Volume: Low

Details....
Speed 57,600
Flow Ctl: Automatic
Init String: AT&FX4


The modem is an external Zoom V.92 connected to the palm cradle with 
a null modem cable and a gender bender.




Pressing the connect button in the Network-Preferences screen gives 
the following results

...Dialing ATG...
(the cool modem connecting sounds ;-)
...Signing on...
...Established...
Then there is a small blinking cursor type thing in the top right.  I 
think this is the normal and expected behavior.

 From there I can get a terminal shell with palm applications 
installed on the palm to do vt100 emulations.



>
>
>	/usr and /etc are from Unix. /usr contains most of the
>operating system, or at least the read-only parts (programs,
>libraries, etc.). /etc contains configuration files.
>	In particular, by convention /usr/local contains stuff that
>has been installed locally (i.e., wasn't part of the vendor's
>distribution).
>	I suspect that MacOS X has something similar, but different. I
>don't know what it is, though.


Well at least I know what to look for now.

>
>
>
>	You delete the files that were installed by 'make install'.
>Welcome to the wonderful world of Unix. :-(
>
>	So you need to delete:
>	/usr/local/bin/coldsync
>......

I don't want to do that yet.  I just like to have a retreat plan in 
case things don't go as I planned.

>)
>
>	You may also want to consider using something like
>		./configure --prefix=/Local
>which tells 'configure' that your local software is installed under
>/Local. 'make install' will then install executables in /Local/bin,
>manual pages in /Local/man, and so forth.
>	In particular, if you use something like
>		./configure --prefix=/Local/ColdSync
>then everything will be installed in /Local/ColdSync so that you can
>just blow away the installation by deleting that directory. (This is
>the simple version; it's also possible to get fancy, but I'll spare
>you that for now.)


Would I need to delete the installed files before trying this /Local 
thing or can I just do it "on top of"  the existing install 
configure?  Is it possible to have multiple versions of Coldsync 
installed?  Running simultaneously?



>
>	According to what you wrote, you needed to use 'sudo' to
>install ColdSync. This is normal. Unix permissions are quite a bit
>more strict than in MacOS 1 through 9; you can't just do whatever you
>want, whenever you want (this also means that if you run a
>virus-infected program as yourself (not as root), it can delete all of
>your work files, but won't reformat the disk).
>
>This is a better solution, IMO, but
>I don't know how to do this under MacOS X (anyone feel like buying me
>a PowerBook so I can learn this stuff? :-) )

Sorry, I can barely afford mine right now.  Maybe in the future :-)


>
>	This says, quite simply, that there's no /dev/palm , which is
>the default device. I'm not sure what the MacOS X serial device is,
>but it might be one of:
>
>	/dev/ttyd.printer
>	/dev/ttyd.modem
>	/dev/cu.<something>
>	/dev/tty.<something>
>

Serial device?  I'm not sure that the iBook or any new mac for that 
matter has a serial port.  Maybe that is not the same thing.  But the 
only ports that this iBook has our a POTS rj11 for the internal 
modem, a RJ 45 for the ethernet, a firewire, a usb, a audio/video, 
and the power supply.  So can there be a "serial device" with out a 
"serial Port"?  (when I think serial I'm thinking of RS232)  But I 
must not be seeing the whole picture.

thanks again.


-- 

Lars Bell
lars@praestare.com
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